Today, we welcome Graham Qually and Lee Su-Feh. Graham started in motion capture in 2007. Five years later, he moved to the east coast of Canada, where he helped build Ubisoft, Toronto's performance-capture stage. He is now the CEO of Beyond Capture and continues his mission of making performance capture accessible. Lee was born in Malaysia and moved to Canada where she now works and lives. Her work includes choreography, performance, teaching, writing, and community organizing. She explores the contemporary body as a site of intersecting histories and habits. Along with this, she co-founded Battery Opera. In our fascinating conversation today, Graham and Lee discuss their respective work. We learn that while they may interact with technology differently, they both understand the importance of the body in performance. While Graham’s work appears to be a dislocation from the body, he believes that it is simply one of the many experiences we can have in our bodies. Lee approaches technology with more caution as she feels it can detach us from our bodies sensorially. We learn why both she and Graham believe that there is an imbalance in the current relationship between humans and machines and how we can move forward to preserve the integrity of the body. The wonder of the human body must come before machines and when we approach them, we should be reminded that we are amazing creatures, capable of a broad spectrum of actions and emotions.