Today’s guests are breakdancer and video game designer Robbert-Jan Brems and First Nations advocate, cultural professional and dancer Leslie Kachina Mccue. Robbert works at Unity Technologies in visual solutions and is also a tech advisor at Danse Bloom. Leslie is a traditional dancer, indigenous resource knowledge teacher, and coordinator for the Royal Ontario Museum Youth Cabinet. We hear from Robbert how breakdancing taught him about passion and creativity, and how these lessons went a long way in showing him he could learn anything he wanted. He went from being bad at gaming to a game designer because of it. Leslie’s life ambition is to use the land as a dramaturgical device and leverage theatre, education, and dance to preserve her culture and bring justice to her people by telling their story. Our guests come from very different backgrounds but we cover some exciting overlaps today. We talk about how humility and togetherness are both major factors in their work. You’ll hear about how both Robbert and Leslie are bringing people in their community together through dance. Leslie shares some of her current projects such as the work she is doing to conscientize people about the suppressed story of residential schools in Canada. Of course, we also get into the intersections of dance with technology in both of our guests' work and hear about its application in transforming body perceptions as well as bringing awareness to uncomfortable issues. In addition, we look at technology and dance from the perspective of privacy, representation, and exploitation. Join us for a fascinating journey into ideas of community, preservation, and creativity at the intersection of dance and technology from two unique voices.